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Blood of the Irish

Postby Dave Mooney on Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:24 am

That documentary we were involved in is airing in a weeks time/


http://www.rte.ie/tv/bloodoftheirish/
Blood of the IrishRTÉ One, starts Monday 5th January 2009, 9.30pm

A two-part documentary series that seeks the truth about the Irish.

Broadcaster Diarmuid Gavin travels to the heart of Africa and beyond in a quest to find the very origins of the Irish people. Who are the Irish and whose blood flows in our veins?

A landmark series for RT�ne, Blood of the Irish explores the most fundamental questions about the Irish population; who were the first people to settle here and where did they come from? Why are the oldest Irish human remains less than 10,000 years old when just 100 kms away in Britain, human traces go back 700,000 years? Did the first Irish arrive overland on an ice bridge, or on a small fragile boat blown ashore by the winds of chance? The series combines cutting edge science, the latest archaeology and superb visuals to bring this enthralling topic to our screens for the first time.i/quote]
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby Dave Mooney on Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:44 am

Second episode Monday 12th January.

Check out their swanky PDF http://www.rte.ie/tv/bloodoftheirish/pr ... nnotes.pdf
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby bannerman on Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:20 am

Congrats Moigh Roith and all those involved, Billy.Dave, Andrew etc.
Am looking forward to seeing it. Hopefully seeing the latest scientific research presented in documentry form will settle a few debates that need to be put to bed ie. outdated Keltoid/ Celtic invasion theories in the Iron age.
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby Dave Mooney on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:50 pm

I did it again... :oops:

Thanks for your help in said construction of huts! :oops: :oops:
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby gaius marius on Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:51 pm

bannerman wrote:Congrats Moigh Roith and all those involved, Billy.Dave, Andrew etc.
Am looking forward to seeing it. Hopefully seeing the latest scientific research presented in documentry form will settle a few debates that need to be put to bed ie. celts vs. romans!!!


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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby bannerman on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:17 pm

:oops: Have edited my post above - what i to what I should have said "Hopefully seeing the latest scientific research presented in documentry form will settle a few debates that need to be put to bed ie. outdated Keltoid/ Celtic invasion theories in the Iron age." which is favoured by some Roman re-enactors.

Any way we should all watch the show tonight to better inform ourselves of the latest research and then hopefully it will give us more answers than questions about Irish pre-history, who the first inhabitants of Ireland were, when were there subsequent large scale population changes and if there was a hallstat /la tene "Keltoid" invasion that kickstarted the Irish Iron age.
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby Dave Mooney on Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:27 pm

This is a two part documentary. Part one is on tonight at 9:30 on RTE1, part two on the same time same channel next Monday.
Zlata, from Crossing the Line films, figures we'll feature more in part 2 than part 1 so don't worry if you don't see us tonight.

...watch out for MHS costumes and Billys props throughout.

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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby bannerman on Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:58 pm

Just watched the first part very interesting. But for fecks sake did they really have to put wee Daniel on screen??
No seriously it looks interesting and the re-enacted scenes and Montague Heritage's costumes look great. Unfortunately ill be out of the country for the next few weeks so I wont see part two for almost a month. That being said im looking forward to seeing the mesolithic camp scenes in part two.

With regard to my above references about settling "a few debates that need to be put to bed" the last comment in the preview for next weeks show was very telling; "Were not Celts, But we are Celts - it depends what you mean by Celtic!"
If anyone is interested in doing further reading on the subject in the meantime I suggest:

Any books or papers by Colin Renfrews
(linguistic archaeologist who suggests that Irish has been spoken here since at least the Neolithic)

"Blood of the Isles" by Bryan Sykes
(a book similar to the programme explaining the DNA science in laymans terms, also exploring British and Irish creation myths & genealogies ie. Leabhar Gabhala, and the genetic ancestry of people in Ireland and Britain)

"The Atlantic Celts - Ancient People or Modern Invention" by Simon James
(This one goes a little to far in some areas, id use it with caution but alot of his theories and ideas seem sound)

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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby Dave Mooney on Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:27 pm

Interesting enough. Just on entertainment value they've left several hooks out for ya not just one. The production value is quite high as. I'm never too crazy about current documentary styles. All the swooshing and shoulder shot interviews makes me sea sick. That bit of my brain that knows about filming and ruins films for me was mapping the shooting time, location access, chopper shots, props, costume, make-up (Go one the Gill!) and post production, editing and after effects etc. et al. The editing alone on part one must have be in excess of 80 hours. This production wasn't cheap at any rate and I'm happier about having to pay for the TV Licence if that's where the money goes! ( http://neoreplicants.blogspot.com/ )

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I loved how totally un-Spanish the Basques are. The Mick heads on them :shock:

They've set up nicely for next week. It'll be a longer wait now. Great anticipation this end on how the Mesolithic camp scenes look and the ensuing critique if they use my currach fishing scene :D

http://www.aegisarchaeology.com/index.p ... nnell.html

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Bill and MHS got a credit! :D
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Re: Blood of the Irish

Postby rinuccini on Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 am

So...the conclusions drawn by the first program were that:

The Irish started off as black Africans who began to walk north, the further they walked, the whiter they became!
They arrived in Ireland, but were driven south to Spain by the Ice Age.
At the end of the Ice Age they arrived back in Ireland accompanied by boat loads of bears!

Really can't wait for part two to find out where all this is going ;)
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