how did the vikings smoke?

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how did the vikings smoke?

Postby nathan on Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:13 pm

well i have been wonderin this does anyone know the answer have any pipes been found from this period or anything similar???
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby the_power on Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:53 pm

Unless I'm very mistaken, you won't find clay pipes until the 1600s when tobacco started coming in. Before then, herb-burning was usually done in a brazier, for communal use, rather than personal use.

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Re: how did the Irish smoke?

Postby finnobreanan on Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:02 pm

This does bring up a good question. I've been meaning to ask when the first recorded importation of tobacco was into Ireland? Also, when did pipe smoking begin in Ireland? I haven't found anything on the subject. I'm a cigarette smoker, so I usually carry a pipe and tobacco with me when doing living history circa 1575-1603 (I'm smoking a pipe in my avatar!).
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby nathan on Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:48 pm

well my wonder is that the vikings were trading with arabs so would there have been any influences towards it from there
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby knightofredemption on Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:09 pm

I didn't know about the brazier thing. Is there anything to show what they were smoking? and whether this was a day to day thing or that dreaded word, ceremonial?
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby Cathal on Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:46 pm

Never heared from any evidence for smoking vikings. Also the arab shisha is a 16th-century invention. Herb burning in the brazier should have been common against some parasits, vermins, rodants etc. - and there was some ceremonial use of amber on charcoal in the south baltic regions, as far as i know.
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby knightofredemption on Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:50 pm

somehow the phrase "smoking vikings" just cracked me up :lol: thanks cathal that make perfect sense.
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby claimhteoir on Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:43 am

Anyone fairly familiar with the Icelandic family sagas? They might give more insight into what herbs were burned and the setting of Viking communial smoking. I've only read Gisli's saga and I can't recall a smoking reference, though there may very well be one.
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby Swifty on Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:17 am

I have to say no on both counts, firstly there is no archaeological evidence for smoking amongst the vikings. That is asides the possiblity of 'communal smoking' mentioned above. I collect English translations of the Icelandic Sagas (I have 20+) and to the best of my memory there are no references to smoking - plenty of drinking, fighting, wenching etc but no smoking.

As John has said the first pipes would likely have appeared in Ireland c.1600. These pipes were of clay with particularly small bowls - an indication of the scarcity of tobacco at this time - which were shaped tapered at both ends and at a 45 degree angle to the stem. The 'heel' at the base of the bowl was only embryonic at this stage.

Below is a typology of these early clay-pipes from the book 'Marinarkeologi' by the Swedish author Catharina Ingelman-Sundberg:
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Re: how did the vikings smoke?

Postby KimPierri on Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:52 pm

Hi

Tobacco came from Amrica with Columbus and his successers, hence no viking smoking. (unles one have af a peacepipe with a Screaling :-))

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