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Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby Cathal on Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:01 pm

Hi guys,

hope anyone can help me. HERE is a report of a 1847 discovered Viking burial in Kilmainham. Now we want to recreate the glass beads, see pages 7/8. Trouble is, i cannot find any descriptions about the bead's sizes.
From a friend i got the measures of the reticella bead, listed in above document as "b". Here's the attempt of our reconstruction:
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And here's a picture of the originals in Kildare Street:
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So, has someone here a source to get the original sizes of this find? Thanks for your efforts!!

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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby oldrat on Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:25 pm

on the picture arms from Lagore(1034). he's width 1 cm
this arm look like a piece of the other pictures
maybe its width is also 1 cm
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby oldrat on Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:32 pm

I think the "height" of the beads 1,5 cm
but I could be wrong
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby the_power on Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:47 pm

It's amazing that they made something like that in 15mm. Stefan - how big is your version ? How much effort was involved ?

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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby Cathal on Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:24 am

@oleg:
Thanks for the pictures - you'll get mail some later today 8-)

@john
Well, this bead was a pretty disilusioning experience. Torben Bartelmie, one of our countrys leading glass bead specialists, nedded 15 (!!) attempts to get ONE surviving bead of this Kilmainham-type-b-style. The problem is, the "tentacles" are getting rather shrapnelish whilst the cooling down process. HERE you can see a picture of a broken bead on the bottom of the page. 15 mm was impossible, so he decided to make it a little bit bigger. 18 mm worked.
The cooling down process was then extended over 30 hours and as result we got the above bead, which only lost one of the arms (... and got fixed with industrial glue... :oops: 8-) )

After this experience the Early Irish who made this bead style have more than our deepest respect. 21st century has still so much to learn...

By the way, Torben is a wonderful source for museum quality glass bead replicas. Homepage unfortunately only in German, but he speaks fluently english.
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby Seathrun on Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:46 am

Wow nice work And great info
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby oleg on Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:13 pm

First attempt from Po-Le-Glass - our friends who make good and affordable beads for the local market.

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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby Seathrun on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:04 am

wow thats awsome. Great work
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby Cathal on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:33 am

Holy shit!! This is incredible!!! Congratulations to the artist!
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Re: Kilmainham Glass Beads

Postby oleg on Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:58 am

New day, new bead :)
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