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Postby Jason H on Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:57 pm

Hey folks,

Wanted to get some ideas and suggestions on equipment suitable for an Irish Raider type around 950AD. I've been sorted out on weapons already. I'm trying to figure out what other types of accessories would be appropriate.

A haversack if so, linen or leather? What kind of pattern?
Jewelry, assuming I was at all decent at raiding, would it be safe to assume I might wear some viking "bling"?

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Re: Equipment

Postby Jason H on Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:05 pm

No one has any suggestions?
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Re: Equipment

Postby brendan on Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:38 pm

Are you planning on representing the leader of a warband or one of his Damh? (sp)?
~it would change it a lot.
If you are talking raider do you mean someone hopping a boundary to seize cattle or something more serious (is there anything more serious?)
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Re: Equipment

Postby Jason H on Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:08 pm

Probably someone of means. We're looking at portraying a group that of course raids cattle, as well as raids on vikings. Right now I'm the only one with a sword or any intention of getting one. It's a viking swords so something that was traded for or stripped from the dead I suppose. We all have spears/javelins.
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Re: Equipment

Postby finnobreanan on Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:57 am

Jason,

Can you define "equipement"?
Are you looking for ideas for clothing "head to foot", acoutrements, weapons, accesories?

Have you considered reading books that cover this time period? They may not give you specific answers, but they may give you a context to the historical time period.
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Re: Equipment

Postby Jason H on Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:27 am

Yes I have considered reading books, unfortunately I never learned to read so it's proving difficult to learn anything of value. There are so few childrens colouring books on early medieval Irish history. Honestly, I am reading, even the Tain. Sometimes it's easier though, just to ask and feel out the general consensus rather than base my whole impression on my interpretation.

By equipment, I'm primarily referring to incidentals that books don't always or rarely cover. For example, If you were out raiding, did you carry a haversack? What did you put in the Haversack? I'm mainly trying to feel out what people carry as far as accessories and "field equipment". It's the same situation with any period I do, I feel that personal items and equipment really round out an impression.

When I re-enacted the West Cork Flying Column ( not the California group), it took about ten books on the War before I came across what Michael Brennan and his Column carried in their haversacks. This was a serious departure from the prescribed equipment of the Irish Volunteer in 1916. While I realize I am now rambling I think I had a point somewhere if my ADD allows me to remember what it was and quit staring at something shiny in the corner.

Necklaces, I know they wore amber beads glass beads, what about crosses?
Haversacks, what do you think they may have looked like? Leather, Linen, Human flesh?
Belt Pouches, just simple drawstring? What would you put in it? A Comb, scissors, etc?
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Re: Equipment

Postby oleg on Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:30 pm

Jason,

My knowledge of bags/pouches and similar artifacts is limited to:
1) a piece of leather from Iona and
2) budgets for books.

I have a linen primitive "haversack". Thinking about making version of Iona bag(hope, it was a bag;) ).

As for "items" - beads, game pieces, dice, boards.
Toilet accessories - combs.
Food and drinks - wooden plates, spoon, knife, cup or horn or "meather".
Strike a light kit.

You may inspire from Mogh Roith gallery at http://picasaweb.google.com/moghroith/I ... Equipment#
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Re: Equipment

Postby Jason H on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:00 am

Thanks for the suggestions Oleg. This definately helps.
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Re: Equipment

Postby finnobreanan on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:35 pm

Old Irish and Highland Dress, By H. F. McClintock
http://scotpress.com/catalog/books-abou ... dress-p-93

Dress in Ireland, by Mairead Dunlevy
http://www.amazon.com/Dress-Ireland-Mai ... 350&sr=1-1

Albrect Durer's famous painting of Irish Gallowglass and Kern shows the Kern at far right wearing what appears to be a simple linen bag tied to hais waist belt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gallo ... %BCrer.png
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Re: Equipment

Postby oleg on Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:09 pm

finnobreanan wrote:Dress in Ireland, by Mairead Dunlevy
http://www.amazon.com/Dress-Ireland-Mai ... 350&sr=1-1


When you buy this book, first thing you'll notice is that "early textiles"(up to 14th century AD) are explained on 12 pages.
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