How do you get information for the reenactment?

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How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby oleg on Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:42 pm

I've spent a week moving around JSTOR and couldn't get any info from it.
$15.00 USD per article is not something easy to afford. I'm not sure if the access is available for all students. I've asked couple of my friends from institutions, subscribed to JSTOR, to check whether they have access or not - none of them was able to access the articles.

Scientific journals tend to be open for scientists via university subscriptions,
access to more or less serious libraries or college libraries - using your student's ID card.
What if you are not a student or history is not your major?

There are members in many groups who do some research. How do they get information for example excavation reports, written in 30s or 40s as RIA Proceedings?
I feel like I'm missing something, and the answer is very simple for local people.
Do you have some hints?
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby Nerva on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:05 pm

Salve Oleg,

JSTOR is for Roman studies, what exactly are you looking for?

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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby Freebeard on Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:18 am

JSTOR is an article based Database with a broad-ranging field. There are many disciplines up there, but it really does depend on what people bother to upload.
Sometimes, articles are put up, but for reference only, but often for download.
Many academic institutions have access to JSTOR, not all, and it is a subscription that seems to go through the libraries more so than individual departments, as far as I gather.
It is a way of obtaining articles that are difficult to find, yes, but is by far not the be all, end all of databases. It is good because of its wide range of topics covered, and host individual articles, as well as many journals.

You may be right in saying that there are different accessible versions of JSTOR for different disciplines, though I have never come across this problem.
One o the problems I have come across is due to PDFs, or articles of very large size take a while to load up onscreen, and sometimes the links are incorrect (has happened where I access an article, and some reason or other opened a separate document....a few times actually)


By all means, JSTOR is good, but not definitive.
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby oleg on Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:01 pm

Hi Martin,

I'm looking for many articles, top priority is "Lagore Crannog. An Irish Royal Residence of the. Seventh to Tenth Centuries A.D.", by Hencken at the moment.
But there may be a lot of other interesting articles. With no access to journals it's hard to find out:).

Aindrias,

your post is more about technical difficulties when you have access to electronic journals. So it looks like you have an access.
What to do if you are not a student or your let's say your school library doesn't have any access.
Could you get access via public libraries in Ireland?

At the time when I prepared my MS papers I lived under impression that scientists publish their works to give publicity to them. I had access to the journals and it worked fine for me. MIT OpenCourseWare made a new trend: open courses, people can get materials and study even if they aren't students. It was easy to fall under impression with Wikipedia growth.
Now it comes that getting basic articles is a hard problem :geek: .
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby Nerva on Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:05 pm

Hi Oleg,

Sorry but I got JSTOR confused with JRMES :oops: Try PM-ing Billy for what your looking for.

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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby Freebeard on Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:38 pm

Hey Oleg,
I do not know if public libraries have access. Perhaps some of the larger, city or public libraries might. It does cost to get a subscription, so perhaps only the larger libraries do. I've never tried to to access JSTOR through a public library.

In relation to the Lagore excavation report, I have sent a pm about it. I finally managed to download it, and sent you a pm about it.
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby the_power on Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:59 pm

Last year, I tried to setup a 'livinghistory.ie discount' for JSTOR, but it turned out to be on the expensive side. They had said that they were looking at a cheaper 'noncommercial' rate, I'll see what they say when I poke them again.
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby oleg on Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:45 pm

Martin, thanks for the hint. It's always topical.
Aindrias, many thanks for the PM. It has made my day.

John, I'm glad that you've searched for ways to get JSTOR discount for livinghistory.ie. Hopefully, one day they will change their mind and make important sources easier to explore.
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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby the_power on Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:28 am

I got an answer back from jstor about a 'livinghistory all-members discount'.

Thank you so much for your continued interest in JSTOR.

The short answer is unfortunately, no, not yet. But we are getting very close and will likely announce something this August. We will certainly reach out to you once JSTOR is available to individuals and membership organizations.

In the mean time, we are also very close to providing access to JSTOR's Ireland Collection to every public library in Ireland for free. So also keep an eye out for access at your local public library in the next month or so.


That's pretty cool, at least. Not much help for people outside of Ireland looking to get Irish stuff. Or people like me, who don't usually go into libraries :)

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Re: How do you get information for the reenactment?

Postby oleg on Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:59 am

Well, at least it answers the question about JSTOR and local libraries. Great news.
Are there any other journals collections or archives except JSTOR? Does the RIA provide access to archives?
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