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Postby Ger Fitzpatrick on Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:39 pm

Hi guys,
I'm hoping you'll be able to help me, I'm looking for some pictures of a Crois.

From the Slua; "The Crois was usually made from woven wool or plaited leather."

I was wondering if anyone could post some pictures of one? Or point me in the direction where I can find more information.

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Re: Crois

Postby museumtom on Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:51 pm

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Re: Crois

Postby Ger Fitzpatrick on Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:24 pm

Hey Tom,
Thanks for that link. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any more information than the Slua article.

After a bit of snooping on the web I found this link, the reason I didn't find it the first time was that I was spelling it crois whereas these guys spell it crios. Does anyone know which is the correct spelling or are they both right?

http://www.irishclothing.ie/shop/produc ... crios.html

From the picture it seems quite similar to tablet weaving, is it constructed in the same fashion?

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Re: Crois

Postby brendan on Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:40 pm

As far as I remember (not having made one myself!) the method is different to tablet weaving - though I have not done so myself...a few people on here will definitely have done so. I think that it is possible to get guides/books with instructions on how to make one.

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Re: Crois

Postby Jess de Búrca Monty on Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:04 pm

Typos
Crios - belt
Crois - Cross/Crucifix
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Re: Crois

Postby Nerva on Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:56 pm

Salve Ger,

I'd try Melissa Shiels. If you dont have her contact details drop me a PM.

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Re: Crois

Postby Aislinn on Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:55 am

The method is different to tablet weaving. I have seen a rather complex set of instructions involving a pencil and lots of little bits of string but the most efficient method of weaving a crios is to use a rigid heddle, or two depending on width. There are two photos on this thread viewtopic.php?f=47&t=873. I can email more if you like.
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Re: Crois

Postby empressmel on Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:11 am

How much do you know about weaving (ie. do you need me to explain the terminology, as well as the differences in technique)?

The main differences between how a crios is woven & how a tablet woven band is created is very simple - both create a band, but in tablet weaving, the warp threads are twisted whilst the weft threads are woven between them; whereas with a crios (woven with a rigid heddle), the threads are simply woven together.

For this reason, you can have a (virtually) unlimited number of patterns with tablet weaving, whereas when you use a rigid heddle, you only get the one pattern (called a tabby - literally just one over-one under). Most tablet weaving sticks to about 3 colours at the most, and most crios' that I have seen have 6 or 7 colours.

Hope that's not too confusing. There is a mountain of information on the web and in books how to do both techniques. A Crios would be easier to start with. There's instructions as well on how to make rigid heddles out of popsicle sticks & plenty of people sell them online. Even if you just google 'rigid heddle' you'll probably find half a million articles written on the subject, how to make them, how to weave with one, etc.

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Re: Crois

Postby Freebeard on Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:16 pm

spelling would have originally been cris, and later been crios
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Re: Crois

Postby Ger Fitzpatrick on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:55 pm

Thanks for all the information and the clarification of the spelling :)

I found this website http://bobscrafts.com/bobstuff/backstrp.htm which seems to be exactly what I need. I'm gonna give a go over the weekend. I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks for all the help!

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