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Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby Dave Mooney on Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:42 pm

Bone flakes or Slips, compass decorated LaTene style designs, from Loughcrew. Has anyone got any idea of their dimensions?

These things have been buggin me since I first saw them. I have an idea what they could be if they are a certain size. So, I need to know how big they are.

Any one?

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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby bannerman on Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:41 pm

Hello Dave,
Im struggling to find an illustration of them in my copy of John Waddell's "Prehistoric Archaeology Of Ireland" Im almost certain that they are illustrated in Barry Raftery's excellent book "Pagan Celtic Ireland" with a scale indicating size. Unfortunately my copy of said book is out on loan at the moment.

Tjhey are currently on display in the national museum and if memory serves me correctly are approx 9cm long and 2.5-3.5 cm at maximum width.

Also if you can remember back far enough of are lucky enough to still possess one you will find that the design from these bone slips was used on the old One Punt note that was in use until about 1990.

To me it is a really cool simplistic and seemingly uniquely Irish take on a La Tene style design, Ive always thought of adapting it further or playing with the design for use on a bronze sheet sword scabbard etc...

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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby Dave Mooney on Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:14 am

I have Pagan Celtic Ireland and the image has no scale, is missing the broken end in the sketch, and I can't see any measurements in the text. I had 'La Tène in Ireland: problems of origin and chronology' up till a few days ago, wasn't really thinking about this at the time as subject I was looking at was fibulae designs, but I saw no scale next to these in that either.

Cathy Swift came back to me via text last night and she thinks they are 15/20 cm with some being 5cm thick.

9cm is a little small for what I have in mind but might still work. They wouldn't want to be any smaller from a decoration point of view as getting all that compass etched design onto smaller objects would be a lot of fun. I'm hoping Cathy's figures are correct (she's not 100% so will look them up for me next week). 15cm plus would fit my idea of what they could be better but of course I'm going off a 2D drawing with no idea of size. I wont be putting that idea about till I can confirm the dimensions...and make a working replica.

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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby bannerman on Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:06 pm

Get thee to Kildare St!

Al least when you can see the artefact - you can get some idea of slight wear and tear on it which may give you further clues as to its function. Thank kind of information is rarely recorded in illustrations. Also if you havent been its an excellent chance to see the bog bodies "kingship and sacrifice exhibit"

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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby Dave Mooney on Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:34 am

I will do.

Cathy thinks you may mean 9 inches, but she's a girl and can easily be lied to about such things. :P
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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby bannerman on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:26 pm

Im always underestimating how big some things really are. Surely a good sign!

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Re: Bone flakes or Slips size?

Postby knightofredemption on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:35 pm

Depends where your going to put it.... :oops:
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