The sword in late medieval Ireland

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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby claimhteoir on Sun May 03, 2009 1:38 pm

I don't know if it's still of any use to you, but I randomly came across this article...
"Warfare in Sixteenth-Century Ireland" by Seán Ó�omhnaill in Irish Historical Studies, Vol. 5, No. 17 (Mar., 1946), pp. 29-54
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby Celtic Britain on Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:31 am

In our research to the kingdoms of the western Isles of Scotland we found a typically sword on a lot of graveslabs, called an Islay hilt. When looking to the blade, it looks like an Oakeshott category XII, but it seems the sword was used for a longer time. We found different kinds of pommels on it but some are more common than others.

I know it is not a typically Irish sword but if the hilt indeed had his origins from the isle of Islay, 25 miles from the coast of Ireland, it is very well likely that they were used in Ireland as well.
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby brendan_the_lesser on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:31 pm

ya i found the scottish connection while i was doing the research originally and one of the suggestions was that that style of pommel (almost resembling a squished wheel pommel) and the forward swept hilt was introduced by gallogaigh from scotland. This fits in with the distribution of the swords in ireland, where they stay among irish held regions rather than anglo-irish, which might be the case if they were introduced through England.
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby TheXwarrior on Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:41 am

please tell me if this is an Ireland sword, it looks like a excalibur sword.
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby the_power on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:14 am

Yes, it's a fantasy sword, as far as I can tell. Shiny Black leather wasn't a common thing in medieval times. The forward sweep on the hilt is also a good sign that it's a fantasy sword - it's quite advanced casting, and a significant forward sweep on the quillion would catch on lots of things. It's rare to see a sword like that.

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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby Swifty on Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:04 pm

TheXwarrior wrote:please tell me if this is an Ireland sword, it looks like a excalibur sword.
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What you have there is a bone fide fantasy sword. The Excalibur sword is not based on an archaeological specimen either.
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby Celtchar on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:32 am

A replica of a kern's sword.

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http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/alb ... photos.htm

Of course you can always cheat and use a generic medieval sword; people in the middle ages chose weapons based on how effective they were not because they wanted an "Irish sword" or a "Scottish sword."
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby brendan on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:04 pm

I have held one of those, it is exquisite...I try to banish memories of just how exquisite. Only thing is that it is a sharp so display only
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby kevin714 on Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:09 am

I'm proud to say I own one and it is an awesome sword, prominately displayed in a locked case in my living room. I am not trained with a sword and only collect but this sword feels very natural to me and is razor sharp. I can see why this would have been a very effective weapon in the hands of my ancestors.
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Re: The sword in late medieval Ireland

Postby Celtchar on Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:01 am

An example of galloglass swords.

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