High cross of Muiredach interpretation

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High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby Morcant on Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:25 pm

I would like to read your opinions about the details of the High cross of Muiredach. The various scenes depicted show tons of details about clothing, fashion, weapons, etc. I think there must be good articles about what is depicted on the cross and how to interpret it, but I haven't yet found any reference about them. Part of the cross is very weathered, is there any drawings from the 19th century or earlier on to help with details?

On the eastern face of the cross, we see for exemple Goliath (second panel from the bottom) with a conical helmet. Do we have here a depiction of a norse helmet, or could it be an irish one, otherwise unknown?
On the first panel from the bottom, we see Cain killing his brother with a heavy choping tool or weapon. This is a quite interesting one, which I find quite similar to some forms of later medieval falchions. Their clothing is also really interesting.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... oto%29.jpg

On the first panel from the bottom on the western face of the cross, we have the arrestation of the Christ. The equipment of the two soldiers is intriguing. Both have swords, and what can be interpreted as beeing some kind of padded garnment/armor. The right one has something that could represent a form of chest armor.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... oto%29.jpg

That's my very own interpretations, you may find them weird, still I'd like to read more about this cross ;)
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:42 pm

i have this...
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby finnobreanan on Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:22 pm

H.F. McClintock does discuss the panels in Old Irish and Highland Dress with Notes on the Isle of Man. I don't have my copy here at the museum, but I do rember the panel posted by Old Rat, he explains as short trews on the men at left and right.
The panel with Cain killing Abel, he interprets them as both wearing Leinte and Ionars.
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:37 pm

But i think its not a short trews. It may be long ionar or stitched fabric.We have not evidence that the Irish used a plaid fabric.He may be wrong
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby Morcant on Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:45 am

Thanks Scott and Alexander for your elements. What about what I have termed the "chest plate" on the soldiern and Cain's weapon?
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:07 pm

about a man in a helmet...t's a hard question to my mind.I think it's a Viking helmet.
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:19 pm

you can download book http://www.archive.org/details/muiredachabbotof00maca Muiredach, abbot of Monasterboice, 890-923 A. D.; his life and surroundings (1914)
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:26 pm

about Cain's weapon...
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby finnobreanan on Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:02 pm

Morcant wrote:Thanks Scott and Alexander for your elements. What about what I have termed the "chest plate" on the soldiern and Cain's weapon?

McClintock wrote that Cain is wearing a decorated Eonar. The weapon sure looks like the cleaver in the previous attachment.
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Re: High cross of Muiredach interpretation

Postby oldrat on Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:26 am

I think it's a agricultural tool.something like...(g.h)
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