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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby Celtchar on Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:19 am

Thank you all for the excellent information. What did they use for spearheads?

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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby oleg on Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:51 pm

Getting back to the archery, there is an article by Andrew Halpin freely available - Military Archery in Medieval Ireland: Archaeology and History.
http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/pdfs/halpin.pdf

I guess, it includes at least part of the information from the book John has already suggested(classification, frequencies and hypothesis about usage patterns).
It's worth to mention that I didn't get the book yet.
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby Celtchar on Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:03 am

Thank you!
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby finnobreanan on Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:29 pm

the_power wrote:http://shop.museum.ie/p-80-weapons-and-warfare-in-viking-and-medieval-dublin.aspx has pretty much everything you need to know about archery from the archeological record - dozesn of bows, and hundreds of every type of arrow you can think of. Even a viking crossbow, with an antler nut. Some nice conclusions about the change from unarmoured to armoured targets, based on how arrowheads changed in shape and type.

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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby nathan on Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:32 pm

yeah john alerted me about it when the book first came out well worth the buy they have other ones too some of which i have skimmed through but look good as well.
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby the_power on Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:51 pm

May as well summarize Halpin's stuff;
* No evidence of post-bronze-age Irish archery before 800
* Vikings did show bows to the Irish, but most bows were Viking
* By 13-14thC Irish used them pretty heavily, dedicated arrow/bow makers
* Lack of professional archers in Irish armies in the 15-16thC may have been a political reaction to use of bows by the English
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby brendan on Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:23 am

I cant open the page where I have the info logged, but I am pretty sure that there is no reference to bow makers or fletchers in the status stuff under Brehon law...given that comb makers and the like are listed this is an interesting omission and may reflect how these skills were viewed
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby nathan on Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:45 pm

they were there alright and the process of making crossbows was a reasonable industry too.
what sort of period is that brehon law referring to though brendan?
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby brendan on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:12 pm

Brehon Law - Early to C16, so it should have showed up at some point...again, will have to check notes
checked and no explicit mention, though maybe it fell under the general carpenter stuff...and they were high status
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Re: Gaelic Archery

Postby nathan on Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:56 pm

i would think the title of bowyer would be separate as they would have had their own guilds?
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