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Brooches (Early Medieval to Early Modern Irish)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:50 pm
by claimhteoir
Hey folks,

Any advice regarding a brooch for a brat? I'm hoping for something that will work for the early medieval period right through to the 16thC. I guess that means we're talking penannular? :?:

Any advice? Venders? Websites? Pictures?

Thanks,
Eóin

Re: Brooches (Early Medieval to Early Modern Irish)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:00 am
by Cathal
Have a klick here: http://www.re-enactment.biz/bronzeindex.html
We're very happy with Paul's stuff.

Another nice looking page is http://www.quietpress.com/

Hope this helps
Stefan

Re: Brooches (Early Medieval to Early Modern Irish)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:37 am
by the_power
Penannulars had fallen out of favour by the 10thC. I'm not sure, but I suspect that the 'ring pins' - a pin with a small, non-descript ring on the end, tied to the garment, would do for more periods.

BTW, if you are ordering a ring pin from Mercia Sveiter, could you get me one too ? VP04 looks perfect...

John, who has too much stuff really, but shouldn't use a classy 9thC silver thistle brooch for low-status stuff

Re: Brooches (Early Medieval to Early Modern Irish)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:07 pm
by Sekhemet
Hello!

I was wondering if you meant pewter brooches - I'm not sure if they are suitable for very young children, but there are several vendors, who could probably advise you if you dropped them a line.

A particularly good vendor is Billy and charlie's Fine Pewters : http://www.billyandcharlie.com/ they have designs from the 14th and 15th centuries (some before and after as well) and have the authentic pewter pins on the back. This means that they don't have the horrible modern pinbadge back, but the pewter pin means it cannot go through very fine weave fabric (at least without leaving a bigish hole) and won't stand up to moving from clothing to clothing very frequently.

I would also have a gander at Fettered Cock Pewters : http://www.fetteredcockpewters.com/ who do some authentic pewter badges, and some dubious SCA items.

Lionheart replicas also have pewter badges: http://www.lionheartreplicas.co.uk/shop/index.php

Steve Miligan's Pewter Replicas : http://www.pewterreplicas.com/dept.asp?id=0

I'm afraid I don';t really know about earlier periods of medieval, but it appears that the cloak ring does not change much in design through time.

Hope these are of interest - I've bought from all, and they are all very helpful people.

Re: Brooches (Early Medieval to Early Modern Irish)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:54 pm
by claimhteoir
Thanks guys!

Okay, so I reckon I'll need a penannular brooch for early medieval stuff. I think the VBR26 from Mercia Sveiter is nice! What do ye reckon?

Do you think I'd get away with a simple annular brooch for Irish kit from post 1169 to 1603? Maybe the NBR11 or NBR13. I can't stand the heads on the NBR03, which is dated on the site from the 11th to 17thC.

I won't be ordering for a few weeks anyway. I'm just pondering, because I'll have to sort a kit out over the next few months.

John, I'll let you know when I'm making an order and if you still want the pin I'll put the order in for you.