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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:15 pm

Can any one help me out with some pictures or sketch's maybe of this type of guard without the S in any previuos research you might have done? It will take a few weeks to order the book.

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Re: A&A Sword

Postby Swifty on Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:05 pm

The cnamha yahoo group has a fair few of them uploaded directly from the book.
kevin714 wrote:Can any one help me out with some pictures or sketch's maybe of this type of guard without the S in any previuos research you might have done? It will take a few weeks to order the book.

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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:14 pm

I realized I have that article
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And all the Type 3 swords are either S guards or rolled at the ends except this one and this does not have the fan type ends, perhaps there is another source for the majority straight guards?
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There are none similiar to the A&A sword with a straight fan shaped guard in this publication, the closest example has rolled ends not flat/straight.
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:20 pm

Swifty wrote:The cnamha yahoo group has a fair few of them uploaded directly from the book.
kevin714 wrote:Can any one help me out with some pictures or sketch's maybe of this type of guard without the S in any previuos research you might have done? It will take a few weeks to order the book.

Thanks


Also the cnamha yahoo group is no longer there, does anyone know what happened to it?
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby Swifty on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:29 pm

If you want rolled edges I'm sure A&A would do that for you if you ask nicely. Now that you've found Andy's pamplet you can see what I meant earlier on when I said that the blade itself is well off the archaeological examples anyhow. If you want my advice you should just order a custom sword from Armour Class - they made three of Halpin's ring-pommel swords for me to the EXACT original specifications. If museum-quality is not your priority and you are looking for a serviceable sword for re-enactment that roughly conforms to type the A&A sword would certainly do. It depends on what you want.
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby Swifty on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:33 pm

kevin714 wrote:Also the cnamha yahoo group is no longer there, does anyone know what happened to it?

Yeah just noticed that - maybe they're having a kitkat.
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:51 pm

Swifty wrote:If you want rolled edges I'm sure A&A would do that for you if you ask nicely. Now that you've found Andy's pamplet you can see what I meant earlier on when I said that the blade itself is well off the archaeological examples anyhow. If you want my advice you should just order a custom sword from Armour Class - they made three of Halpin's ring-pommel swords for me to the EXACT original specifications. If museum-quality is not your priority and you are looking for a serviceable sword for re-enactment that roughly conforms to type the A&A sword would certainly do. It depends on what you want.


I'll look into the Armour class for a future purchase, what is there price range if you don't mind me asking. The A&A sword was on sale for Christmas and I could't resist, I don't have a real problem with the blade being based on the ashmolean art work since no one has a problem with the "E" guards being historical and that is only based on artwork also since none have been found in any archaeological digs in Ireland. I already own the Albion Kern which I would consider museum quality, I'm just adding to my collection :D
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby Swifty on Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:44 am

The price for one sword from AC at that time was something like GBP£300-400.00 - something like that anyhow - it's been a while since I made that order - they were good value for money anyhow. Yeah well absolutely buy the A&A sword then so - it looks a lot better than that Windlass one that I saw on this forum a few weeks back. How cheap is the sale price anyhow? And at least - as you say - the blade does conform to something for which there is contemporary pictorial evidence. PS Armour Class do nice E-quillon types too ; )
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:27 am

Its $740 USD regularly, on sale for $585 USD. Of course that doesn't include shipping($32). And the options of counter curved or S quillions($40) and blueing($75) are extra. I like the E -quillion look and the Armour class looks real good for that price, of course the shipping from Scotland will cost me I'm sure. I will definetely be looking their way down the line. Do you have any pictures of what you have from them that you could post?
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Re: A&A Sword

Postby kevin714 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:02 am

Can anyone help me identify the sword on the left and find a detailed description?
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